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Poster: rosey842 Date: Jul 7, 2007 9:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: NonDead But Vitally Important Breaking News: Spinal Tap Backstage At Live Earth

Roger Daltrey said it best, "how exactly is this concert supposed to save the world?" Listen, I'm all in favor of doing one's part to recycle, etc., & I'm a loyal Dem. on most issues, but how is a global concert supposed to save the planet from the issues. Al Gore is in this for no one but himself.

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Poster: Ssag Date: Jul 7, 2007 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: NonDead But Vitally Important Breaking News: Spinal Tap Backstage At Live Earth

Being a cynic myself, I do see good things in this. Awareness for one. If you are watching it on TV, they are giving little tips to reduce your energy usage and other little pro-green tips. Knowledge is power and if you don't know the simple stuff to reduce your impact then this is one ways to tell Mr and Mrs Joe Blow how to. There are a lot of average people who don't have a clue but would help if they knew the silly little stuff like turning your thermostat down 1' will save 3% on your yearly energy usage total.

That's who this whole thing is targeting, not the people who are aware but the people that "unknowingly" rape the earth for all it has.

There is also a Live Earth concert happening in China too. Having been to China several times, if anyone needs to know how to reduce their impact on the environment, it's them. Getting these simple messages to the Chinese is a great thing in the long run. Truth be told I have never seen a place that shits on the earth as much as China does. And I have been around a little bit, about 70 countries now.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jul 8, 2007 12:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: NonDead But Vitally Important Breaking News: Spinal Tap Backstage At Live Earth

i agree

if people are tired of Al Gore's grandstanding, then check out Manufactured Landscapes, a documentary filmed in China that for the most part lets the images do the talking...absolutely stunning photography of a country hopelessly caught up in an industrial hell hole...a stark reminder of the price of unchecked corporate power

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 8, 2007 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: NonDead But Vitally Important Breaking News: Spinal Tap Backstage At Live Earth

Live Aid was supposed to raise money FOR Africa and raise consciousness. By the time "expenses" were deducted, there wasn't all that much money (besides--you'd need billions, not millions, to make a dent), and awareness levels may have spiked in the short term, but not the long.

The Concert for Bangledesh raised enough money to get tied up in court long enough to end up with nothing for the Bangledeshi.

The problem with celebrity fundraising is that these folks--kind hearted as they may be--do not understand that money is not the answer in the long run and that star power may get people to watch on t.v., but it won't change their way of thinking.

Until we as a species "get it," all we can do is piss on the raging fires. I'm sorry if that sounds cynical--I guess it is. But then again, I was a card carrying member of the peace and love ("and all that other bullshit" added Jimi Hendrix) generation. Peace of ass, love of self. The real warriors are the ones who are out in the fields, sleeves rolled up, working one day at a time to do what little they can. There are saints, and there are saints of circumstance.
Pledge fifty bucks on your VISA and U2 can feel better for a week or so. For 100 bucks, you get a months worth of fuzzies.

And, yes, Al Gore is a politician.

I wish that we could solve the world's problem with a few guitars, but so many of these problems are eons old: you cannot solve them in a day on the green.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 8, 2007 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: NonDead But Vitally Important Breaking News: Spinal Tap Backstage At Live Earth

Live Aid was supposed to raise money FOR Africa and raise consciousness. By the time "expenses" were deducted, there wasn't all that much money (besides--you'd need billions, not millions, to make a dent), and awareness levels may have spiked in the short term, but not the long.

The Concert for Bangledesh raised enough money to get tied up in court long enough to end up with nothing for the Bangledeshi.

I do hear that Farm Aid does better by bailing out individual farmers--but it still cannot address the bigger problem of corporate farming. (Still--love ya, Willie!).

The problem with celebrity fundraising is that these folks--kind hearted as they may be--do not understand that money is not the answer in the long run and that star power may get people to watch on t.v., but it won't change their way of thinking.

Until we as a species "get it," all we can do is piss on the raging fires. I'm sorry if that sounds cynical--I guess it is. But then again, I was a card carrying member of the peace and love ("and all that other bullshit" added Jimi Hendrix) generation. Peace of ass, love of self. The real warriors are the ones who are out in the fields, sleeves rolled up, working one day at a time to do what little they can. There are saints, and there are saints of circumstance.
Pledge fifty bucks on your VISA and U2 can feel better for a week or so. For 100 bucks, you get a months worth of fuzzies.

And, yes, Al Gore is a politician.

I wish that we could solve the world's problem with a few guitars, but so many of these problems are eons old: you cannot solve them in a day on the green.

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Poster: patkelley Date: Jul 8, 2007 7:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: NonDead But Vitally Important Breaking News: Spinal Tap Backstage At Live Earth

I'm pretty sure that this one wasn't a fundraiser, just for awareness.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 8, 2007 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: NonDead But Vitally Important Breaking News: Spinal Tap Backstage At Live Earth

I think they are charging for tickets--and the venues are not selling out--plus television rights. Though I could be dead wrong.

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